TBD                                                              R. Salz
Internet-Draft                                       Akamai Technologies
Updates: 3710, 3929, 4633, 6702, 9281 (if                   3 March 2025
         approved)                                                      
Intended status: Best Current Practice                                  
Expires: 4 September 2025


                           Update to RFC 8717
                       draft-rsalz-8717-update-00

Abstract

   RFC 8717 updated several RFCs pertaining to the organization of the
   IETF to use the term "Managing Director, IETF Secretariat" (MDS).  As
   that term does not accurately reflect the organization or roles of
   the IETF staff, the MDS term is no longer relevant.  This document
   removes mention of particular staff roles, and instead updates the
   source documents so that the job to done, and who the responsible
   entity is (generally, the IETF LLC) are described.

Discussion Venues

   This note is to be removed before publishing as an RFC.

   Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
   https://github.com/richsalz/draft-8717-update.

Status of This Memo

   This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the
   provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79.

   Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering
   Task Force (IETF).  Note that other groups may also distribute
   working documents as Internet-Drafts.  The list of current Internet-
   Drafts is at https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/current/.

   Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months
   and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any
   time.  It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference
   material or to cite them other than as "work in progress."

   This Internet-Draft will expire on 4 September 2025.







Salz                    Expires 4 September 2025                [Page 1]

Internet-Draft                 8717update                     March 2025


Copyright Notice

   Copyright (c) 2025 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the
   document authors.  All rights reserved.

   This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal
   Provisions Relating to IETF Documents (https://trustee.ietf.org/
   license-info) in effect on the date of publication of this document.
   Please review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights
   and restrictions with respect to this document.  Code Components
   extracted from this document must include Revised BSD License text as
   described in Section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions and are
   provided without warranty as described in the Revised BSD License.

Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2
   2.  Conventions and Definitions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   3.  Updates Being Made  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
     3.1.  Changes to RFC 3710 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
     3.2.  Changes to RFC 3929 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
     3.3.  Changes to RFC 4633 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     3.4.  Changes to RFC 6702 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   4.  Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   5.  IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   6.  References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     6.1.  Normative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
     6.2.  Informative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
   Acknowledgments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
   Author's Address  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   6

1.  Introduction

   [RFC8717] updated several RFCs pertaining to the organization of the
   IETF to use the term "Managing Director, IETF Secretariat" (MDS).  As
   that term does not accurately reflect the organization or roles of
   the IETF staff, the MDS term is no longer relevant.  This document
   removes mention of particular staff roles, and instead updates the
   source documents so that the job to done, and who the responsible
   entity is (generally, the IETF LLC) are described.

   This document updates [RFC3710], [RFC3929], [RFC4633], and [RFC6702].









Salz                    Expires 4 September 2025                [Page 2]

Internet-Draft                 8717update                     March 2025


2.  Conventions and Definitions

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
   "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in
   BCPÂ 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all
   capitals, as shown here.

3.  Updates Being Made

   [RFC8717], Section 2 explained that [RFC2606] did not need to be
   updated because [RFC8179] removed the need for it.  While the same
   section of RFC 8717 provided an update to [RFC2028], that has
   similarly been overtaken by events in that it was obsoleted by
   [RFC9281], and Section 3 of RFC 9281 does not need revising.

   Further, the IETF is in the "consideration" stage of forming a
   working group to update [RFC2418]; for discussion, see the mailing
   list (https://mailman3.ietf.org/mailman3/lists/procon.ietf.org/).  An
   online document proposing changes to RFC 2418 to comply with this
   document (https://github.com/richsalz/draft-rsalz-2418bis/pull/14)
   are available.

   The following sub-sections make the specific changes for each RFC and
   therefore this document completely replaces Section 2 of RFC 8717.

3.1.  Changes to RFC 3710

   [RFC3710], Section 2 describes the composition of the IESG.  This
   section is updated to replace the original text that twice mentions
   "IETF Executive Director" with "a member of the IETF staff as
   specified by the IETF LLC."

3.2.  Changes to RFC 3929

   RFC 3929, an Experimental RFC, proposes a number of methods to
   resolve a deadlock when an IETF Working Group is unable to come to a
   decision.

   [RFC3929], Section 4.1.1 says that volunteers should send their names
   to the IETF Executive Directory, who should use [RFC3797] to choose
   if their is an excess of volunteers.  As the IESG is responsible for
   the standards process, this task should be fulfilled by someone they
   announce.

   Similarly, in [RFC3929], Section 4.3 an alternate method is
   described.  Again, the text is changed so that the IESG announces who
   will perform that task.



Salz                    Expires 4 September 2025                [Page 3]

Internet-Draft                 8717update                     March 2025


3.3.  Changes to RFC 4633

   [RFC4633], Section 1 says that the IETF Executive Director is
   empowered to restrict posting to the IETF discussion list
   (mailto:ietf@ietf.org).

   This document updates RFC 4633 to remove that ability.

3.4.  Changes to RFC 6702

   [RFC6702], Section 5 says that WG Chairs and Area Directors are
   encouraged to ask the IETF Executive Directory to contact those who
   submitted an early intellectual property disclosure and request an
   update.

   This document updates RFC 6702 to say that the IETF LLC, or their
   designee, should be contacted.

4.  Security Considerations

   This document has no security considerations.

5.  IANA Considerations

   This document has no IANA actions.

6.  References

6.1.  Normative References

   [RFC2119]  Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate
              Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC2119, March 1997,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119>.

   [RFC3710]  Alvestrand, H., "An IESG charter", RFC 3710,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC3710, February 2004,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3710>.

   [RFC3929]  Hardie, T., "Alternative Decision Making Processes for
              Consensus-Blocked Decisions in the IETF", RFC 3929,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC3929, October 2004,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3929>.

   [RFC4633]  Hartman, S., "Experiment in Long-Term Suspensions From
              Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Mailing Lists",
              RFC 4633, DOI 10.17487/RFC4633, August 2006,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4633>.



Salz                    Expires 4 September 2025                [Page 4]

Internet-Draft                 8717update                     March 2025


   [RFC6702]  Polk, T. and P. Saint-Andre, "Promoting Compliance with
              Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules",
              RFC 6702, DOI 10.17487/RFC6702, August 2012,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6702>.

   [RFC8174]  Leiba, B., "Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC
              2119 Key Words", BCP 14, RFC 8174, DOI 10.17487/RFC8174,
              May 2017, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8174>.

   [RFC8717]  Klensin, J., Ed., "IETF Administrative Support Activity
              2.0: Consolidated Updates to IETF Administrative
              Terminology", BCP 101, RFC 8717, DOI 10.17487/RFC8717,
              February 2020, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8717>.

6.2.  Informative References

   [RFC2028]  Hovey, R. and S. Bradner, "The Organizations Involved in
              the IETF Standards Process", RFC 2028,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC2028, October 1996,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2028>.

   [RFC2418]  Bradner, S., "IETF Working Group Guidelines and
              Procedures", BCP 25, RFC 2418, DOI 10.17487/RFC2418,
              September 1998, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2418>.

   [RFC2606]  Eastlake 3rd, D. and A. Panitz, "Reserved Top Level DNS
              Names", BCP 32, RFC 2606, DOI 10.17487/RFC2606, June 1999,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606>.

   [RFC3797]  Eastlake 3rd, D., "Publicly Verifiable Nominations
              Committee (NomCom) Random Selection", RFC 3797,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC3797, June 2004,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3797>.

   [RFC8179]  Bradner, S. and J. Contreras, "Intellectual Property
              Rights in IETF Technology", BCP 79, RFC 8179,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC8179, May 2017,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8179>.

   [RFC9281]  Salz, R., "Entities Involved in the IETF Standards
              Process", BCP 11, RFC 9281, DOI 10.17487/RFC9281, June
              2022, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9281>.

Acknowledgments

   Just me.





Salz                    Expires 4 September 2025                [Page 5]

Internet-Draft                 8717update                     March 2025


Author's Address

   Rich Salz
   Akamai Technologies
   Email: rsalz@akamai.com














































Salz                    Expires 4 September 2025                [Page 6]